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episode 03

denial

season 2

season 2 - episode 3
denial

In season two’s third episode, singer-songwriters Katie Phillips and Karen Joy Brown discuss denial, the extended play version of shock. Tell-tale behavioral signs of denial are highlighted, and the two share how songwriting can help break the spell and move us forward without leaving the love for what and who we lost behind.

Features original songs, De Rien and 321(Summer’s Gone, So Are You) in relation to the topic.

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show notes

Episode Resources

Karen Joy Brown | Apple Music | Spotify | Instagram
Katie Phillips | Bandcamp | Instagram
The Bootleg Honeys | Bandcamp
Nezza’s national anthem in Spanish newsclip
live song performances
16:14- Karen’s song, De Rien
32:55- Katie’s song, 321(Summer’s Gone, So Are You)
Creative prompt

Dialogue with denial: Let yourself tap into a situation where you have experienced denial as a coping strategy. Think about this Denial as its own entity or character. What would you like to say to Denial? Let Denial answer you back, try not to edit yourself and see what comes through.