In episode two, podcast hosts and singer-songwriters Katie Phillips and Karen Joy Brown address the insidious influence of imposter syndrome and perfectionism on creativity. Basic definitions and origins of the term are uncovered and held to the light of scrutiny in the context of sexism, racism, and white supremacy.

They explore concrete ways of confronting its debilitating effects both personally and within the context of a supportive creative community and why the practice is central to a sustainable creative life.

Two original songs, Amateur and Try offer inspiration from personal struggles with the topic.